Modern replacement for seat motor controls.
errcl65ParticipantMay 18, 2017 at 6:42 pmPost count: 15
This is going to be on going issues with most of the 780s. The full motor drive current
is being run across the 4 switches. Over time and use, the contacts are going to arc and
build resistance and increase the current drawn to drive the motors. All of these will
lead to motor burn out or control burn out. I am going to design and build bridging
board with sealed relays to actually deliver the power to the 4 motors and use the existing
control head just for control. Likely use a bank of 1-wire relays, an Arduino (Nano) to
process the commands from the control head to switch the relays. It should all fit in
under the control head.LagerParticipantMay 18, 2017 at 7:54 pmPost count: 104
Sounds wonderful! Please send the results here once everything is ready!Johan VlagsmaParticipantMay 19, 2017 at 3:46 amPost count: 89
Actually on mine there are already relay’s under the seat. The switches control the relais through the black box under the seat. I’ve had a black box fail but not the switches. Mine is a 1990 model 2.errcl65ParticipantMay 22, 2017 at 10:57 pmPost count: 15
I have totally disassemble the power seat controls and black box on the 89.
The black box under the seat augments the forward/backward travel for the
fold down feature. It does not process the other 3 controls, only
This board is really scary old complicated TTL analog tech. It intercepts
the forward/backward control from the stock head units and adds forward control
when the switch releasing the fold forward is depressed and held. There is
also a limit switch at the back of the seat (ball bearing which contacts the
side console) to stop the forward motion (forward position reached).
This board can be completely by-passed with the loss of the fold forward
feature, returning the seat to a stock 760/960 style. One just has to manually
more the seat forward.
I think my black box is shorting out the seat motor 30A fuse. I manually
test all the 4 motors (using a battery to power each motor in both directions)
and they are good. I had the control head out already, and took the opportunity to rebuild it.
I separated the control head (remove all the button, arms, ball bearings), and
desolder the board to reveal the 2 relays and 4 diodes. I remember doing this 25+ years
ago with my 740 Turbo to fix one of the bad relays. Just go slow with low wattage
iron (solder sucker and wick), slowly pry the board up and away from the housing as
you desolder. Start from one end and work (pry up) towards the opposite end.
The board is essentially fasten to the housing via the solder joints (23 of them).
The relays in the control head are $5.00 parts from Digikey. New version are
pin compatible and seal! Digikey part is 1393277-4 (Open K Relay, 12VDC, 45AMP).
The diodes 1N4007 don’t break typically, but they are pennies.
If the fold forward feature is really important, it can be mimic-ed using
an Arduino PLC and some relays. This is low on my restore priority.
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